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第七品无得无说须菩提于意

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云何如来得阿耨多罗三藐三菩提耶如来有所说法

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耶须菩提言如我解佛所

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说义无有定法名阿耨多罗三藐三菩提亦

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无有定法如来可说何以

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故如来所说法皆不可取不可

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说非法非非法所以者何一切

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贤圣皆以无为法而有差别

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佛陀佛法真的存在吗以上讲

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了一切法只是引导众生的方便

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实际上并非实有下面佛又提出

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一个问题须菩提于意云何如来得

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阿耨多罗三藐三菩提耶如来有所说法耶佛陀问

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须菩提你是怎么想的如来正

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等觉真实存在吗如来所说的

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法真实存在吗这段经文义

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净译为如来于无上菩提有所证不

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复有少法是所说不

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意思是说如来所证悟的智慧

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功德存在吗如来所说的法存在

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吗两位译师在字句上略

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有不同但意义并无太大

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差别阿耨多罗三藐三菩提这是梵语阿耨多罗是无上三

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藐是正等三菩提是正觉合在

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一起就是无上正等正觉六祖在

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金刚经口诀中解释为阿是无

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妄念耨多罗是无傲慢三是心

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常住于禅定藐是心常住

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于智慧三菩提是断除凡心现见

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佛性六祖是依靠金刚经而开悟的

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这一点没有任何怀疑但他

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的这种解释与某些经论不太

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相同对此法王如意宝曾说一些

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大成就者的语言在显现上

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有时候与经论有一定出入但不管怎么样

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对大成就者的金刚语我们

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都应当恭敬受持佛言不可说佛陀

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提出的问题若是我们回答可能支吾

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半天也憋不出来但是须菩提很

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有智慧他不假思索就说须菩提言

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如我解佛所说义无

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有定法名阿耨多罗三藐三菩提亦无有定

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法如来可说须菩提回答根据我

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的理解如来正等觉不存在佛法也

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不存在为什么如来不存在呢本

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经也说若以色见我

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以音声求我是人行邪道不能见

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如来如来是一切诸法的本性

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不是一个具体形象尽管历史上确

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有如来的出世及涅槃但这

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只是在迷乱众生面前安立的绝非

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实有为什么佛法不存在呢虽然

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在名言当中释迦牟尼佛成道后应

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机施教开演了八万四千法门但这

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也是在众生面前的显现究竟而言

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佛陀没有丝毫说法的分别念在

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众生前转法轮完全是佛智慧

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力的任运示现经云

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虽未说一法众生现如是

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以上是略讲下面在广说

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时先阐述法不存在的理由

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再讲如来不存在的原因万法

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不是有也不是无何以故如来

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所说法皆不可取不可说非法

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非非法为什么法不存在呢因为

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实相中如来所说的法不可得

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不可言说不是有实法也不是无实法

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不可取不可说诸法的自性

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就是涅槃的自性说法者所

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说之法说法之境皆了

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不可得无有能所平等一味自性寂灭

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中论云诸法不可得灭一切

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戏论无人亦无处佛亦无

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所说宗喀巴大师也说世尊自

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成道以来不管在天上人间未曾说过

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一个字因为实相远离能说所

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说等一切戏论非法非非法非法

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指无实法非非法指有实法

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有些人以单空见为究竟所以在

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理解此问题时有点捉襟见肘他们认为

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非法无实法不是世俗中的空

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性非非法有实法不是胜义

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中的名言二者必须用轮番的

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方式来抉择但对我们而言这个

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问题就十分简单佛陀所说的

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法非法无实法之故远离常有

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的边非非法有实法之故

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远离断无的边这即是

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释迦牟尼佛的究竟密意佛与

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菩萨的区别在哪儿所以者何一切

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贤圣皆以无为法而有差别

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为什么佛法在实相中不存在呢

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因为一切法皆是无为法远离

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分别执著诸位贤圣的安立也只是

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能证悟无为法的智慧上有

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差别究竟实相中实有的法不

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存在无实的法也不存在

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诸法本性远离一切执著远离一切

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法相这是圣者入定智慧抉择的

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大幻化网中说之所以承认法界

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一味清净平等乃是由圣者的

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根本慧定所得之故同样一切诸

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法不存在没有实相也是依靠圣者

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入定智慧而得出的结论此问题

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可以从两方面理解一是在

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圣者的根本慧定面前一切都是

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无为法除此以外没有一个真正的实相也

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没有有无执著二是在圣

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者入定的时候一切都是般若空性

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远离四边戏论世亲论师说

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圣者在入定的时候灭除一切

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有为法的散乱执著无为法的本来

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智慧现前反过来说如果诸法的本性

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不是无为法那必定是有为法莲花戒

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论师说若是有为法则是

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刹那变化不可靠的因此诸法

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的本性绝对是无为法否则就

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会随因缘而有变化并非诸

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法的本来实相当然从所证

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的空性而言究竟实相是无为法

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没有任何差别但从能证的

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智慧来讲由于众生的根基不同能

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证悟的空性慧也有深浅差别比如

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声闻证悟的就比较浅菩萨

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证悟的比较深而佛陀是

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最究竟最圆满的证悟六祖云

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三乘根性所解不同见有

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深浅故言差别总之差别是从

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能证的智慧来讲的所证

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的空性不可能有差别如果有的话

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无为法就变成无常了